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Can anyone see the catch with this package?
Seems cheaper than our current, offers more bandwidth and static IP (Which is what we need for a server we run)

Erm. So:

https://www.bethere.co.uk/broadbandoffice.do;

Date: 2008-04-10 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mister-jack.livejournal.com
Madasafish do static ips; and I can get meyou money off if I refer you.

Date: 2008-04-10 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zaitan.livejournal.com
I have been with Be for a while now. You may want to see if you can use an alternative router as the stock one is not particularly configurable. When The wiring in my house is not playing up I get about 17meg.

Date: 2008-04-11 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ehrine.livejournal.com
Already checked that. Our existing router supports ADSL2+ and should work fine :)

Date: 2008-04-11 05:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sobrique.livejournal.com
But do they also do 24Mb?

Date: 2008-04-11 07:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mister-jack.livejournal.com
Can you get 24Mb where you are, anyway?

Date: 2008-04-11 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkgodfred.livejournal.com
I'll sneer at it with a critical eye when I get back from work.

Date: 2008-04-11 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkgodfred.livejournal.com
Okay, sneer complete.

They're a part of O2 from the look of it. They're ADSL2+ which means they have to be LLU which is why they're limited in the exchanges they offer - we're on the list however. It does mean they're using their own equipment arather than BT's though, make of that what you will.

Depending on our line condition we should be able to recieve some portion of the 24 meg, our line has had problems in the past however so we may find they we'll get more disconnects if we try to push it faster.

Thrings they don't mention - contention, we're currently on 20:1 but LLU works differently and they could cnotend us at any ratio they feel like. AUP - they state they'll take action against "unreasonable" transfer amounts, we know how Griffin act - less than 50Gb per month or limited throughput during business hours.

Finally, they just feel tackier. I like the professional image that Griffin's website presents.This all pink and wishywashy and makes me distrust their technical competence. But that'sa purely arbitary feeling.

Date: 2008-04-13 11:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ehrine.livejournal.com
The exchange is like 400 meters from our house so pretty much yeah ;)

I've already checked our attenuation numbers and they're good enough to get about 18-20mbit in theory.

Date: 2008-04-13 11:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ehrine.livejournal.com
I've been doing some research, using their unofficial forums which are usually good for dirt as well as some independant review sites). Contention has been an issue briefly in some places were they had a large jump in customer base. Their response was to increase the capacity of their backhaul network from that exchange. As for the FUP, by excessive they really mean excessive (as in impacts others a lot). I've heard quoted figures of people hitting 820+gb in a month without them batting an eye. In fact the only reports of disconnections I've found any evidence of have been due to other breaches of the AUP.

Date: 2008-04-13 01:44 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-04-13 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkgodfred.livejournal.com
I'll try to remember to double check that number. As the crow flies isn't a good measure but I've got access to BT Openreaches records now.

Date: 2008-04-13 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkgodfred.livejournal.com
Contention on LLU is a bit odd anyway.

The traditional cotention that you get quoted is related to the number of users sharing a Virutal Path through BT's ATM network.

Which LLU doesn't touch at all.

Which is why their packages don't talk about 20:1 and 50:1 or whatever contention. It's just not there and works in a completely different way.

Date: 2008-04-14 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Estimated at around 700m. Minimal capacitance.

Nice short line, should be good.

Date: 2008-04-14 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkgodfred.livejournal.com
Estimated at around 700m. Minimal capacitance.

Nice short line, should be good.

Date: 2008-04-14 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jorune.livejournal.com
Is there any public site that might be used to compare against the BT records you are looking at? Some ready reckoner for expected levels of speed versus distance, post code or location?
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