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So, if you've been following the news, you will be aware that on May the 5th, there is due to be a referendum on changing our voting system.
Edit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12498624
The choices will be 'Yes' to switch to Alternative Vote, and 'No' to keep the current 'first past the post' system.

I intend to be voting in that referendum, because I'm hungry for electoral reform.

AV is described on Wikipedia - but basically, you don't vote for a single candidate, you rank them - put a '1' by your first choice, a 2 by your second, and so on.

When the votes are counted, if none of the 'first choices' got more than 50%, then the candidate who got least is removed from the running, and all the ballot papers with them as 'first' get redistributed.
This repeats until one candidate _does_ get 50%. (Which may mean eliminating all but two from the running, but probably will be quicker than that).

Why do I want it? Well, because right now, the vast majority of seats in the UK are a two horse race - mostly Conservative vs. Labour. This in turn means that in effect - a vote for ANYONE ELSE - is a wasted vote.
I think that's bad. I want to be able to vote for the person I actually want in power - even if they are an independent or minority - without 'giving away' a seat to someone I really don't want to win.

I think that you'll hear the big objection to AV is that it will lead to more hung parliaments and coalition governments. Personally, I don't think that's a bad thing - just look, if you will at what's happened in the last two governments - first the Tories, then Labour - they've both made a mess, and I honestly think that's because there was no one who could apply the brakes, because they had a parliamentary majority.

So yes. It means - if it passes - that you'll be able to express a preference for the person you want to win, AS WELL as being able to express a preference against someone you really don't want.
I think it will mean more support for minority parties, as people don't think it'll be a 'waste'. I also think that ranked voting will also work against the ... less desirable minorities - I can see many people effectively voting against the BNP for example, by ranking 'everyone else' above them.

It's not a perfect system - no system of voting ever is - but I think it's a massive step forward in our electoral system, and one that will lead to better, more democratic governments for the future.

Date: 2011-02-18 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notdan.livejournal.com
Can anyone explain to me how AV (Alternative Vote) differs from STV (Single Transferable Vote)? Last night's 10 O'Clock Live suggested that they're quite different, but the description of AV I saw on the BBC news today made them sound identical.

Date: 2011-02-18 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ehrine.livejournal.com
With STV you are actually electing more than one person. If someone has _more_ than is needed to be elected, "wasted" votes move to the 2nd choice. In addition, you eliminate those who can't win from the other end to converge on the two or more that are elected. With AV you only elect one candidate.

Date: 2011-02-18 10:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fearmeforiampink
Simply put, AV is STV in a single member constituency, and thus with a quota of 50%.

If at University, or indeed elsewhere, you voted under a system of preferential (1, 2, 3...) votes, where votes were reassigned, which they called STV but which only had one post open (say, Student Union president)... then that was AV.

A lot of student unions seem to call their AV elections STV, possibly because their NUS delegate elections are done by STV, and/or because STV sounds so much better.

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