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I've just finished watching Battlestar Galactica, Season 3.

I'm impressed. I think these series are worth watching. Especially as they keep everyone guessing as to who the cylon infiltrators are. All the way through.

Date: 2007-09-30 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nakedsamuraiguy.livejournal.com
In a scary coincedence, I've just finished re-watching the series 3 box set at the same time!: :O

Date: 2007-09-30 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sobrique.livejournal.com
I'm impressed. They foreshadowed a lot of it very nicely indeed.

And despite a certain revelation, also have me eagerly wanting to know what the next season brings.

Date: 2007-09-30 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nakedsamuraiguy.livejournal.com
Indeed, they managed to keep enough drama yet not too much as to completly throw too much at the audience. And yes, that bit actually makes me stand up and go "MOAAAAAAAAAR!"

Date: 2007-10-01 07:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sobrique.livejournal.com
I was thinking to myself... 'weren't there 5' and the 5th dawned on my just a little bit beforehand.

Bastards.

Beautiful stuff, but ...

I speculate: There's two 'factions', which is why some don't talk about the others.

Date: 2007-09-30 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomposting.livejournal.com
Is it out on DVD? *blink* I've been waiting to see it!

Date: 2007-09-30 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomposting.livejournal.com
In the US?

Oh my gosh. You just made my day!!!

Date: 2007-10-01 07:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sobrique.livejournal.com
I have no idea. All I know is I have a stack of DVDs for series 3, that I've just finished watching :)

Date: 2007-09-30 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomposting.livejournal.com
It's not showing it on Amazon. Hmm. :(

Date: 2007-09-30 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmh.livejournal.com
Yeah. I've recently finished season two. Don't make the mistake I did of looking for BSG info on the web, you'll find out more than you're supposed to know. :o/

Date: 2007-10-01 07:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sobrique.livejournal.com
I didn't. I figured out that there were spoilers to be had, and so I avoided 'em :)

Date: 2007-09-30 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jorune.livejournal.com
Blade Runner is being reissued on DVD. This new edition marks the 25th Anniversary of the film and has been redone with new special effects using the Directors cut. But what of the central mystery of the film, Is Deckard a replicant?

The NY Times gets Ridley Scott to answer one of scifi's most enduring questions.


Date: 2007-10-01 07:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sobrique.livejournal.com
Hmm. The connection with blade runner is a relevant one isn't it? I wonder how much of that is due to Edward James Olmos' influence. (He was in blade runner too, IIRC)

Date: 2007-10-01 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jorune.livejournal.com
How do we treat our creations? Do we offer them hope? A future? or are we responsible for all their actions?

Do the sins of the father become the sins of the son?

His character was called Gaff and at the end of the film he does something remarkable. He allows Deckard and Rachael to escape. Throughout the film both humans and replicants behave in an amoral fashion. Replicants are treated like slaves and used to wipe out their own kind. The Replicants respond in kind and attack the very experts who created them.

If the colonists of the 12 planets treated the cylons as cattle, only to bred and fed for the sake of money and food, where is the moral imperative for the cylons to treat the humans any different. The cylons take the opposite view, the moral imperative is to eliminate the colonists.

Gaff's final action is therefore highly significant. He offers the prospect of reconciliation and the search for forgiveness. The treatment of the cylons to and from humans is of prime importance to the character development of BSG.

Date: 2007-10-01 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sobrique.livejournal.com
Indeed. Really very similar themes, now you point 'em out. Just ... well more developed in BSG - they've got quite a few more hours of screen time to play with, and they really go to town on the question of 'what does it mean to be human'.

But at the same time, it's escaltated even further, with the Cylons _almost_ anhiliating the human race, and then on to some other nastiness in other series - you have all manner of bitterness and nastiness either way, as both sides try and 'dehumanize' the other, in telling them 'it's ok, they're only Cylons/Humans'.

Date: 2007-10-01 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jorune.livejournal.com
The definition of terrorism has proved a difficult issue for modern statehood. The United Nations still does not have an agreed definition as there are many states which officially do not practice or condone terrorism yet get their hands dirty. The trick is to find a definition that describes all the bad things your opponents do while leaving your hands clean.

This page from the UN highlights the potential definitions without naming and shaming the countries who have voted against their adoption.

The enemy of a state commits acts of 'Terrorism'.
The state replies with 'Counter Insurgency'.
The enemy kills and maims the innocent.
The state has 'low intensity warfare'.

Both cylon and human practice the same tricks.

As BSG season 3 is a reflection of the real world then we can see similar tricks happening around us.

Iran labels CIA a terrorist organisation
US State Dept labels Iran 'a state sponsor of Terror'

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