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Followup on the speeding allegation

The advice I've seen from PePiPoo and Richard Bentley and the Association of British Drivers is this:

I have an absolute defense under section 84 (4) of the Road Traffic act of 1984. (Which sounds good, I'm not 100% sure what it means, but as best I can tell, a legal speed restriction absolutely must comply with signing requirements).

Basically, in order to apply a Endorsable fixed penalty notice (EFPN) using the letter of the law, they also have to comply with the letter of the law. As such, no offence was committed.

I've still not sent back the Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP). I am intending to do so with a covering letter, explaining the situation. Before I do that though, I've evidence to gather.

Does anyone feel like a short drive through the countryside before the end of the month, and is prepared (if necessary) to act as a witness? Could probably do with taking some video footage of the route too, which is ok, as my phone can (albeit not at very high resolution).

The only minor difficulty being that there's multiple routes through this restriction, and on one of them the signage is correct. So I then have to figure out the situation as regards the burden of proof.

Date: 2005-07-21 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xarrion.livejournal.com
So I then have to figure out the situation as regards the burden of proof

Surely as long as there is one viable non-signed route you could have taken, Reasonable Doubt comes into play?

Date: 2005-07-21 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sobrique.livejournal.com
Probably, but I'll have to check.

Date: 2005-07-21 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ehrine.livejournal.com
Sounds to me like it should. Simple case, you can prove that you _could_ have entered via an incorrectly signed route (and you should be able to prove that it is a reasonable route for you to take), and thus were not presented with proper information of a speed restriction.

Date: 2005-07-21 12:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gingerboy.livejournal.com
Would it have been easier on your part if the governments plans for satellite tracking of cars for road charging purposes was in place - that way they would already know which road it was you joined the A45 from... :-)

Date: 2005-07-21 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ehrine.livejournal.com
What time do you finish work today? I am quite happy to come along with you tonight and bring my new Digi camera (which can record video).

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