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Well, then. So when you're told by the law lords, that indefinite detention without trial of foreigners is illegal, what is your reaction?

Apparantly, it's to announce new legislation to allow house arrest, also without trial.

Is it just me, or has the home secretary completely missed the point? It wasn't the 'locking them up' bit that was the problem. By all means, if they've been naughty, put 'em in prison. It was the 'without a trial' bit that was the real problem.

And if the home secretary decided he doesn't like you, then ... well that's it really. If we wanted security, if we were to just shoot everyone on the MI5 suspect list, then that'd probably work. Oh, yeah, so you might get a few innocents, but our security would be improved. The problem is, there's some lines that should not be crossed. Powers of the government to lock people up indefinitely, without a trial or evidence is one of them.

You don't put your money in a fire, to stop people nicking it.

(And sadly, this isn't a white rabbit post.)

Date: 2005-01-27 10:49 am (UTC)
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Ahh, but you're missing the point. Our esteemed Home Secretary thinks that he can get around the 'disproportionate' part of their Lordships' judgements by applying the same rules to British citizens that are applied to foreigners.....

House arrest for British citizens merely suspected of involvement in terrorist activity....give me strength. Such a provision is highly likely to be considered incompatible with the rights enshrined under the ECHR - particularly Article 6 - the right to a fair trial.

Date: 2005-01-27 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sobrique.livejournal.com
This is true. They were looking to be using another 'opt out' of the Human Rights convention.

Whilst I appreciate there have been a few 'almost sham' cases brought under human rights (like the person who claimed her moving to a house near an airport violated her human rights), the EHCR isn't just an inconvenience, to be ignored when it's convenient...

That's the scary part I guess.

Hmm, time to use http://www.faxyourmp.com/ again I guess.

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