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Right. Well, we've all had days where we want someone dead. Occasionally, we really mean it.

So hypothetically:
How much would you pay to have someone removed?

Working on the assumption that it's going to be a person who _really_ annoys you, or there's some advantage in it.

I figure there's a certain threshold value in it, - obviously anyone taking the contract is going to need a 'risk vs. rewards' calculation - there's a chance they'll end up going to prison for a looong time, and they're also likely to have some additional expenses. (Sniper rifles ain't cheap ;p).

I figure you could probably operate legitimately as a 'life insurance' group. After all, life insurance is a bet that you won't die before a certain point.

So what you do, is take out a £500 life insurance policy on someone, that's automatically entered as a sweepstake for 'who can best describe the cause of death'.
Or maybe a 'first caller after they die'.

Obviously all such things would be held confidential, and no records would be kept of any transactions.
Also, there would be a 10% or so 'administration fee'.

The question is though, how much would that service be worth?

Edit: And on the flip side, is there a price at which you'd be prepared to accept a 'hit'?

There's also a book on the subject (thanks [livejournal.com profile] mhw)

Date: 2004-04-29 05:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhw.livejournal.com
I should think it's more a matter of how much a sufficiently competent professional would charge you, rather than how much you'd be willing to pay.

Date: 2004-04-29 06:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sobrique.livejournal.com
In any deal there's two sides - what people are prepared to pay, and what people are prepared to accept.
You set your price to an 'optimum' such that you have a useful balance between the people buying your service, and income as a result.

There's not point being a million dollar hitman, if you only work once every 20 years....

Date: 2004-04-29 06:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lisekit.livejournal.com
According to the film Leon, the going rate is five grand a head.

Anyone know the rate for delivering a really good kicking?

Date: 2004-04-29 06:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhw.livejournal.com
$1 000 000 / 20 = $50 000pa.

That's presumably tax-free.

If you could be sufficiently sure you could get away with it, I'd say that that was an excellent remuneration.

Date: 2004-04-29 06:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sobrique.livejournal.com
Well, OK.

But then again, that's assuming anyone would pay someone that kind of quantity with no 'experience' shall we say.

Argh. You know what I mean. There's a high payoff that means you only have to work occasionally, but you've got to find someone to pay it.

or something.

Date: 2004-04-29 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sobrique.livejournal.com
And actually, despite it being illegal and deniable, I expect the tax office could find _some_ way to take a cut...

Date: 2004-04-29 07:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terriem.livejournal.com
In Glasgow, it's five pints of beer and a packet of crisps.

Date: 2004-04-29 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lisekit.livejournal.com
Presumably, you'd be laundering your income through a legitimate business. So the IR wouldn't miss its cut.

Date: 2004-04-29 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhw.livejournal.com
This may be a useful book to consult.

Date: 2004-04-29 08:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zaitan.livejournal.com
You could always hire me, after all I was asked if I was a hitman by a kid on the bus this morning.

Date: 2004-04-29 08:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sobrique.livejournal.com
That's kinda why I posted :)
So anyway, if I picked a random person (presumably someone you didn't know) who wasn't really anywone important, how much would you want to 'do' them?

Date: 2004-04-29 08:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sobrique.livejournal.com
Oh my. I must have a copy. I don't care if it's any good or not, I just need it for my bookshelf at work.

Date: 2004-04-29 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sobrique.livejournal.com
Hmm, I suppose you'd have to really wouldn't you.
I mean, large deposits of cash have to be reported under anti-terrorism laws.

Although I suspect that this hypothetical company could provide a 'laundry service'...

Date: 2004-04-29 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhw.livejournal.com
And before you shell out real money for a real book, you may wish to peruse the online version.

Date: 2004-04-29 08:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sobrique.livejournal.com
You have far too large a collection of links to this subject.

The thing is, it's not so much the information I want, but the book to have at work to worry the shite out of my collegues.

After all, they're convinced I'm a nutter between LARPing, Roleplay, Airsoft and the propane incident...

Date: 2004-04-29 08:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhw.livejournal.com
*chuckle* I assure you that it's only that I'm skilled with searching for obscurities.

Date: 2004-04-29 08:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sobrique.livejournal.com
Yeah, but you would say that.

Date: 2004-04-29 09:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhw.livejournal.com
*smile* But of course.

Date: 2004-04-29 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jambon-gris.livejournal.com
I belve about £500 will do the job, if you hire an Estonian. (Estonians are the bad arsed end of the russian mafia so im told). For $1,000,000 you could probaly hire dick chaney, it would be legal (sort of) as well.

"It was terrible accident we were trying to hit Iraqi fundermetaists and missed by 2500 miles" stated the spokesperson for the US army today. Which lets face doesnt stretch the imagination too much.

Date: 2004-04-29 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lisekit.livejournal.com
5 grand sounds acceptable to me.

Date: 2004-04-30 06:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zaitan.livejournal.com
It would depend on so many things. Who the target is, do they have any powerful friends, does it have to look like an accident etc etc. It could range from a grand or two to many times that.

If you wanted a member of a bike gang knocked off, or a rozzer then you are talking about serious money. If you want your grannie knocked off to speed up your inheritance then it would be a lot less.
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