Exotic ways to die.
Nov. 28th, 2006 04:43 pmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6182804.stm
Recent case in the news. Ex-spy, gets poisoned.
With some stuff called 'polonium-210' which is a toxic radioactive isotope.
According to Wikipedia Polonium is really very rare, of the kind where in all the reactors in the world, 100grams is produced each year. That particular isotope has a 138 day half-life. It's an alpha emitter, and it glows blue.
Now is it just me who finds this an extremely strange choice of way to get someone dead? I mean, it's "highly radioactive and difficult to handle" Not to mention exceedingly rare, and ... well not exactly very subtle as a poison. I mean, blue and glowing, you _can_ hide, but ... well, what's wrong with cyanide?
Assuming it actually _was_ a poisoning attempt, it strikes me that it's almost as if someone's read too many James Bond books, and is going for a hideously complicated and difficult way of killing someone.
There's so many ways to kill someone that don't involve:
a) A nuclear research lab - this stuff isn't commonplace. There's probably only a few places in the world it could have come from.
b) something that'll make geiger counters ping.
c) doesn't glow blue
d) isn't frighteningly difficult to handle.
e) isn't phenomenally expensive, due to it's rarity.
OK, so you do only have to feed someone 0.12 micrograms to kill them, but ... well, a 9mm cerebral haemorrhage is probably a lot more effective.
Sadly Alexander Litvinenko is now dead from polonium-210 poisoning, but I can't help but wonder what the hell that was all about.
Recent case in the news. Ex-spy, gets poisoned.
With some stuff called 'polonium-210' which is a toxic radioactive isotope.
According to Wikipedia Polonium is really very rare, of the kind where in all the reactors in the world, 100grams is produced each year. That particular isotope has a 138 day half-life. It's an alpha emitter, and it glows blue.
Now is it just me who finds this an extremely strange choice of way to get someone dead? I mean, it's "highly radioactive and difficult to handle" Not to mention exceedingly rare, and ... well not exactly very subtle as a poison. I mean, blue and glowing, you _can_ hide, but ... well, what's wrong with cyanide?
Assuming it actually _was_ a poisoning attempt, it strikes me that it's almost as if someone's read too many James Bond books, and is going for a hideously complicated and difficult way of killing someone.
There's so many ways to kill someone that don't involve:
a) A nuclear research lab - this stuff isn't commonplace. There's probably only a few places in the world it could have come from.
b) something that'll make geiger counters ping.
c) doesn't glow blue
d) isn't frighteningly difficult to handle.
e) isn't phenomenally expensive, due to it's rarity.
OK, so you do only have to feed someone 0.12 micrograms to kill them, but ... well, a 9mm cerebral haemorrhage is probably a lot more effective.
Sadly Alexander Litvinenko is now dead from polonium-210 poisoning, but I can't help but wonder what the hell that was all about.
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Date: 2006-11-28 04:53 pm (UTC)The radioactive bit is fine if no-one is looking for radioactive material.
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Date: 2006-11-28 05:01 pm (UTC)Handling is not a problem as long as its covered. Alpha particles can be blocked by something as flimsy as a paper bag, and its not a gamma ray emitter.
Also, the half life means that if he hadnt made such a fuss and had been buried, his exact cause of death would have been undetectable after a few years, as the majority of it would have decayed.
So in summary, you only need a very tiny amount of the stuff,
It would get into your digestive system which of course has a really good blood supply or "really efficient Way of spreading radioactive death all around your body", so when its in your system, your screwed.
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Date: 2006-11-28 05:11 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-28 05:15 pm (UTC)And of course, once its ingested, your screwed.
The figure 250 Billion times as toxic as Cyanide does stand out however.
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Date: 2006-11-28 05:16 pm (UTC)I was thinking in terms of if you've been poisoned with something fast and readily available then ... well, who are you going to tell. But then again, you might be able to do this in a public place, and, as you say, be untraceable.
Apart from the 'rare radioactive isotope' bit of course.
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Date: 2006-11-28 05:34 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2006-11-28 05:46 pm (UTC)Mythbusters is a great, great show. :-)
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Date: 2006-11-28 05:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-28 05:58 pm (UTC)For all the things in life money can't buy: mastercard
Date: 2006-11-28 06:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-28 11:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-29 09:26 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-29 12:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-30 05:51 pm (UTC)That or he was implicated in the mind of the assassin as being responsible for somebody else's death from radiation sickness, and they wanted him to know just how it feels...
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Date: 2006-11-30 07:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-30 07:54 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-11-30 11:17 pm (UTC)As I understand is, Polonium is very toxic (I believe it's comparable with arsenic), although I have to admit I know less about polonium than I do about plutonium or uranium. However, the effects on Litvinenko are certainly consistent with radiation exposure, and as you'd need less than a gram to get those effects, and as they'd manifest pretty quickly, my money would be on the radiation.
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Date: 2006-12-01 12:35 pm (UTC)Darn it, I remember being told about the uranium / plutonium by a vaguely authoritative source (like an old science teacher or the news or something). Bloody wish they'd get their facts straight sometimes.
Oh well, that's one urban legend that I won't be spreading anymore. :-/
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Date: 2006-12-01 08:34 pm (UTC)I'm going back to my box now, it's going to be another 30 years before something comes along that I'm qualified to talk about.
Unless they do start building new nuclear power plants...
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Date: 2006-12-03 04:40 am (UTC)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbrella_Murder
I think there was an element of competition involved during the Cold War, I cite the various ways people have tried to kill Fidel Castro:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/638_Ways_to_Kill_Castro
Not only were they competing to put men on the moon, they were also competing to come up with new and innovative methods of assassination.