Sinergy this month

[sobrique]

How many people do we have going to SINergy this month? I have a feeling that we're not going to have enough transport if it's just Paul and myself driving.

Who's planning to go to SINergy, from Coventry, and is going to need transport? (If you know of someone, that's definitely going, who's not likely to post here, please give them a prod, this includes e.g. Richard)

Edit: But if I am driving, I'm going to want a contribution of about £3 or a drink or two towards the cost of driving from my passengers

Edit: Snipped some needless whinging.

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[sobrique.livejournal.com]

Well, I have confirmation from Oliver, who wishes to attend. He'll be coming up on Friday, hopefully in time for the pub.

[xarrion.livejournal.com]

I spoke to Richard last week, and as far as he is aware, he'll be down here for SIN, and therefore need lifting by some means.
Safe to assume I'll be going barring massive death or injury or a sudden attack of severe apathy.

[darkgodfred.livejournal.com]

Robin had dropped out, but is probably quitting work through van issues so thats gone all up in the air.

Anyway, possibly require a lift for me, Clare, and Huw (and maybe Robin since he said something about not wanting to drive when I asked him just now, but that said probably tuff on him).

If petrol money is an issue I can try to dig out some cash. Taking public transport isn't really an option though. Getting out is easy if cramped but getting back leaving after about ten ends up with you stuck in Birmingham until 6 in the morning.

[sobrique.livejournal.com]

Brum is taxi distance from 'ome though - where notts ain't.

Actually, I wonder if there's cheapy sleeping places in notts, like B&Bs or whatever. (shrugs)

I'm not amazingly keen on driving myself, since as people may have noticed, I like beer. Lots. But, oh well.

[ehrine.livejournal.com]

I think that Robin going and yet not driving himself may not be an option. We'll have to see. I'm more then happy to drive, and so is Paul T this time I think. That's 10 people (at a squeeze). With Ed or Robin we'll be fine. Ed doesn't want to have to drive every time though. Equally, we won't always be able to count on Paul (and it would be nice to have the odd session off from time to time myself).

Shrug. Let's sort out the list of who's going, then work out if we're short on car spaces...

Let's see.

Me
Adam
Jude
Paul T
Ed
Kev(?)
Huw
Clare
Tristan
Richard
Dave
Robin(?)
Laura(?)

Anyone else I've missed?
That's potentially 12 people anyway, which is 3 cars as a minimum.

[sobrique.livejournal.com]

One more - Oliver - a friend from college. He's planning to show.

[malal.livejournal.com]

"Ed doesn't want to have to drive every time though. Equally, we won't always be able to count on Paul (and it would be nice to have the odd session off from time to time myself)."

Equally, I can't remember of a time since I got my car when I've gone to a SINergy session & not driven. So the "If you don't want to drive you don't go" arguement for drivers doesn't wash, you can't have it apply to some drivers & not others.

I'll post up more what's happening with me later on. Needless to say, it's all rather Fucked Up, and I'm not a happy bunny.

[sobrique.livejournal.com]

"Equally, I can't remember of a time since I got my car when I've gone to a SINergy session & not driven. So the "If you don't want to drive you don't go" arguement for drivers doesn't wash, you can't have it apply to some drivers & not others."

Hmm looks like someone's having a bad day.
I don't see it applying to some drivers and not others. "If you don't want to drive you don't go" is bollocks, for the simple reason that there's only a few people driving, and _all_ it would take is to ask/persuade someone else who is driving to take you.

You don't want to always drive, I don't want to always drive. Great. I always figured it worked along the lines of if you're driving you have veto over who you transport. If you can find someone to transport you then you don't have to find a way to get there.

No one's _making_ you drive. Personally I dislike it, because a) I can't get beer, b) I have to drive _back_ at sod all time in the morning, c) I don't like being treated as a convenience, d) I don't see why I should be paying for fuel, the £10/day or so for owning a car _and_ the time spent chauffering just to make someone elses life easier.

But I do want to go to sinergy, and finding a space in someone else's car is not often on the cards. So I do drive, and in the past I've transported other people. (Although it might save me a few quid of fuel if I didn't bother)

Maybe a mass driver strike and make everyone find their own way there is the way to go? Or perhaps have those who do drive take turns to give the others a lift to sinergy and back, and bugger all these freeloading bastards - make them find their own way there and back.

[xarrion.livejournal.com]

Though there may be some 'justice' in that, it does mean that you'd be reducing the Cov participants by two thirds ;). And explaining to D & G that you've reduced the nights takings by £40 out of spite, they'd probably whack you with blunt latex objects for a long while ;)

I usually try and contribute in some way - Paul H usually demands a few quid of people, and I tend to buy Paul T drinks at the Sal/NA when I go up with them.

If you don't want freeloaders, ask people to contribute a couple of quid, instead of just complaining that they don't - most of them will, I'm sure. :p

[sobrique.livejournal.com]

Hmm, seems my attempt at sarcasm and irony didn't work then. Oh well.

I'm grumpy at the moment, about anything to do with money, bills and generally being taken advantage of.
This doesn't specifically apply to SINergy transportees, it's just more in general. (Some may know why, there are reasons for it though)

I seem to recall I did request contributions for last session, to no avail. Maybe I just got unlucky. Maybe I'm too much of the opinion that I shouldn't have to _remind_ people.

(repost cos it's my journal)

[malal.livejournal.com]

Yeah, sorry. I read Paul's comments the wrong way and got irritated by the percieved hypocracy.

Definately looks like I'm not going to going to SINergy though, so that settles that one.

As an aside, I never ask people for a contribution. Why? Because a) I'm going there anyway, and b) Then I'm doing them a favor, not a service. They've got no grounds to moan about my timing, any mucking them around I do, and I set the timetable. Not saying "that's how things should be" or anything, just giving people my take on it...

It's one of the reasons I got immensly pissed of with Tom Fraser after giving him a lift to the gathering & back. No thanks, no drink / petrol money, and he whined when I wasn't keeping exactly to his timetable. Grrrr.....

[sobrique.livejournal.com]

Ah, but if you weren't transporting, is there not the possibility you could get a lift with someone else?

's not like you're charging taxi rates or anything ;p. Actually, I sorta reckon it's a manners thing.

If someone does moan about doing them a favour, I reckon you're quite entitled to invite them to get out and walk...

[malal.livejournal.com]

Oh, I've just remembered, & before I forget, you may want to add Sonya to that list. These days she get's a lift with me when she comes. You'd have to speak to her see if she's going though.

OK, Bed now. Night

[ehrine.livejournal.com]

Sorry if I sounded harsh dude. The thing is, I've been to every session since Sinergy restarted and only been driven there twice iirc (I may have miscounted however). I've accepted that if I'm going, I'm probably going to end up driving, mostly coz I won't be drinking in session baring the occassional shot of whiskey. As a result, if it means Ed can get a lift, I'll probably drive.

[sobrique.livejournal.com]

That's fine and good. I have no contact with Sonya, so would someone who does mind getting in touch?
It's looking like we're going to be hoping that Paul T is driving, because we have _way_ more than 2 car loads, and rapidly approaching the limit of 3...

(Which is good, in a way, but we need more drivers)